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		<title>By: Google Accounts/Apps T&#38;Cs &#187; Via Consulting</title>
		<link>http://via.ie/it-consulting/hey-google-get-off-o-my-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Accounts/Apps T&#38;Cs &#187; Via Consulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up on the Google Accounts/Apps T&amp;Cs question recently posted here as it affects data protection I did get to chat with Marc Wiseler [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up on the Google Accounts/Apps T&amp;Cs question recently posted here as it affects data protection I did get to chat with Marc Wiseler [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul O'Mahony (Cork)</title>
		<link>http://via.ie/it-consulting/hey-google-get-off-o-my-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul O'Mahony (Cork)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  Thanks very much.  Made me think. You may have highlighted something that Google hasn&#039;t yet sorted, and is hoping most people won&#039;t think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  Thanks very much.  Made me think. You may have highlighted something that Google hasn&#8217;t yet sorted, and is hoping most people won&#8217;t think about.</p>
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		<title>By: What Google Didn&#8217;t Do &#187; Via Consulting</title>
		<link>http://via.ie/it-consulting/hey-google-get-off-o-my-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>What Google Didn&#8217;t Do &#187; Via Consulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has disappointed me big-time. Diarmuid Keane of Via Consulting wrote a blog recently entitled ‘Hey Google Get o’ my cloud’ and challenged Google in terms of the data ownership issue for companies wishing to adopt Google [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has disappointed me big-time. Diarmuid Keane of Via Consulting wrote a blog recently entitled ‘Hey Google Get o’ my cloud’ and challenged Google in terms of the data ownership issue for companies wishing to adopt Google [...]</p>
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		<title>By: wavelinks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hey , Google , get off o’ my cloud</title>
		<link>http://via.ie/it-consulting/hey-google-get-off-o-my-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>wavelinks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hey , Google , get off o’ my cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hey , Google , get off o’ my cloud . » Via Consulting.       This entry was posted on Wednesday, September 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am and is filed under [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hey , Google , get off o’ my cloud . » Via Consulting.       This entry was posted on Wednesday, September 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am and is filed under [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin McCarthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read last weekend in the Sunday Times magazine an interesting article called &quot;Are our heads in the cloud&quot;. 

Although aimed to explain what is the cloud hype all about it did point out that corporate spending will reach a whopping $42 billion by 2012(source:IDC) and Merrill Lynch predicts revenues to reach $160 billion globally.

This is the where any serious IT company will want to have their slice of the cloud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read last weekend in the Sunday Times magazine an interesting article called &#8220;Are our heads in the cloud&#8221;. </p>
<p>Although aimed to explain what is the cloud hype all about it did point out that corporate spending will reach a whopping $42 billion by 2012(source:IDC) and Merrill Lynch predicts revenues to reach $160 billion globally.</p>
<p>This is the where any serious IT company will want to have their slice of the cloud.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Hussey</title>
		<link>http://via.ie/it-consulting/hey-google-get-off-o-my-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Hussey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken,

I would agree on the usefulness of the Google products and no doubt it will in time shake up the market. However, what disappoints me in this discussion is the absence of Google themselves to set the record straight. Diarmuid asked pre-blog, we then offered a Google rep (who had recently approached me to advocate on behalf of Google Apps) the opportunity to respond. And we get nada. I am coincidentally reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buzzmachine.com/what-would-google-do/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;What Would Google do&#039;&lt;/a&gt; and I feel that the author &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jarvis&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeff Jarvis &lt;/a&gt;would be more than disappointed in Google’s  failure to  enter into this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken,</p>
<p>I would agree on the usefulness of the Google products and no doubt it will in time shake up the market. However, what disappoints me in this discussion is the absence of Google themselves to set the record straight. Diarmuid asked pre-blog, we then offered a Google rep (who had recently approached me to advocate on behalf of Google Apps) the opportunity to respond. And we get nada. I am coincidentally reading <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/what-would-google-do/" rel="nofollow">&#8216;What Would Google do&#8217;</a> and I feel that the author <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jarvis" rel="nofollow">Jeff Jarvis </a>would be more than disappointed in Google’s  failure to  enter into this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://via.ie/it-consulting/hey-google-get-off-o-my-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article.

As a Google Apps specialist; I have to say it is a great product in terms of cost-saving, functionality and ease of use. I agree that as a business product it could use great levels of user control but then again as a product it is constantly being developed.

I understand that a lot of people are unsure about the reliability of cloud computing but having worked using both internal and cloud computing options I have to say that the cloud option caused far less headaches and at least when the cloud option crashes you just need to wait for the engineers behind the cloud to fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article.</p>
<p>As a Google Apps specialist; I have to say it is a great product in terms of cost-saving, functionality and ease of use. I agree that as a business product it could use great levels of user control but then again as a product it is constantly being developed.</p>
<p>I understand that a lot of people are unsure about the reliability of cloud computing but having worked using both internal and cloud computing options I have to say that the cloud option caused far less headaches and at least when the cloud option crashes you just need to wait for the engineers behind the cloud to fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://via.ie/it-consulting/hey-google-get-off-o-my-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cloud suppliers (We tried a few) were large computer manufactorers who dealt in the enterprise. So pretty easy guess there. 

We tried a VMWare roll out two years ago which provided utility compute. But once again a variety of legal issues came along so it could only really be used for basic wintel application hosting (web sites etc.) 

Hosted services will work out eventually but corporates need so much control and these services dont yet provide it. 

I&#039;m currently liasing with a &#039;SaAS&#039; provider about a roll out of a new system in a SME. I&#039;m not satisfied with the level of control the SME is getting over their own data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloud suppliers (We tried a few) were large computer manufactorers who dealt in the enterprise. So pretty easy guess there. </p>
<p>We tried a VMWare roll out two years ago which provided utility compute. But once again a variety of legal issues came along so it could only really be used for basic wintel application hosting (web sites etc.) </p>
<p>Hosted services will work out eventually but corporates need so much control and these services dont yet provide it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently liasing with a &#8216;SaAS&#8217; provider about a roll out of a new system in a SME. I&#8217;m not satisfied with the level of control the SME is getting over their own data.</p>
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		<title>By: diarmuidkeane</title>
		<link>http://via.ie/it-consulting/hey-google-get-off-o-my-cloud/comment-page-1#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>diarmuidkeane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting Steve . can you give us an idea who was your cloud supplier ? 4 years is a long time in IT - would you consider revisiting it ?
I&#039;m still chasing Google for an answer to the points raised in the article in the hope of providing a follow up . Your comment further convinces me that cloud providers need to sit up and take notice of experiences such as yours to open up a sustainable market for cloud . 

Brendan I agree with you as I am among the many gmail account holders who didnt worry a jot about T&amp;Cs until I started to research this article .  I didn&#039;t rush to  close my gmail account as soon as I read section 11 either . My usage of my gmail account is sufficiently &#039;casual&#039; not to warrant such a reaction . I am not using my gmail to run a business . What I would find objectionable and what I&#039;m asking Google to clarify among other things is if section 11 applies to Google Apps ( at least Premium ) clients who are running a business and are entitled to expect their data to be handled confidentially .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting Steve . can you give us an idea who was your cloud supplier ? 4 years is a long time in IT &#8211; would you consider revisiting it ?<br />
I&#8217;m still chasing Google for an answer to the points raised in the article in the hope of providing a follow up . Your comment further convinces me that cloud providers need to sit up and take notice of experiences such as yours to open up a sustainable market for cloud . </p>
<p>Brendan I agree with you as I am among the many gmail account holders who didnt worry a jot about T&amp;Cs until I started to research this article .  I didn&#8217;t rush to  close my gmail account as soon as I read section 11 either . My usage of my gmail account is sufficiently &#8216;casual&#8217; not to warrant such a reaction . I am not using my gmail to run a business . What I would find objectionable and what I&#8217;m asking Google to clarify among other things is if section 11 applies to Google Apps ( at least Premium ) clients who are running a business and are entitled to expect their data to be handled confidentially .</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We tried using &#039;the cloud&#039; back in 05 inside a large financial institute. It failed on so many levels its unreal. 

Ignoring all the technical issues (Uptime, control etc.) which we attempted to avoid by plowing cash in for more control. You are presented with a bunch of business and most importantly LEGAL reasons as to why it just wont fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We tried using &#8216;the cloud&#8217; back in 05 inside a large financial institute. It failed on so many levels its unreal. </p>
<p>Ignoring all the technical issues (Uptime, control etc.) which we attempted to avoid by plowing cash in for more control. You are presented with a bunch of business and most importantly LEGAL reasons as to why it just wont fit.</p>
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